Would you rather be paying for gas⛽️ with your hard earned money OR paying for a supercharge🔋 with your time while chillin in your Tesla??
Here’s What People Are Saying.
- whiner_s4And the mustang is still the better car to wake up every morning and drive1d18 likesReply
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- voltly@whiner_s4 I respectfully disagree. I have driven both and the Mustang cannot hold a candle to me Tesla.1d17 likesReply
- h.nigga__@whiner_s4 if you want a “better car to wake up to” for 65 dollars a month ok 🤣1dReply
- denimchicgal@whiner_s4 but the trade in value is sooooooo far less than ANY tesla 👊🏽. Good luck finding a Tesla anytime soon that stays on the lot for more than 3 hours💯💯💯 at CarMax you will find many more mustangs camped “out “ on the Car Max lot.. Tesla’s in the future won’t “sit on the car max lot” for over 3 hours😂 and it’ll be SOLD👊🏽1dReply
- qiskarma_$65 for a tank daaaamn what you driving?2d26 likesReply
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- voltly@qiskarma_ California prices.2d27 likesReply
- qiskarma_@voltly wtf cali2dReply
- downlow_performance_inc@qiskarma_ check out my post you guys got it easy.2dReply
- maxime.zim@qiskarma_ You guys have never seen french prices😅😁2dReply
- majesticdetailing17@qiskarma_ cali is expensive2dReply
- _kelten@qiskarma_ I pay $80 to fill up my BMW……2dReply
- sstefheikamp@qiskarma_ 65 wouldn’t even get you half a tank where i’m from… 80 liter tank 1,60 a liter2dReply
- er_rhag@qiskarma_ in Italy to fill a Panda I have to spend €60. In Italia the price per liter is like €1,62d1 likeReply
- _teslatek@voltly $65 where ? I never paid less than $75 lol bay area prices2d1 likeReply
- batroyce@qiskarma_ that’s nothing come to france2dReply
- sjalvskadad@voltly You make this post from California, I just heard you guys dont even get electricity a week a month and have to pay triple price for it too2dReply
- bruelle28@sjalvskadad Well when you continually vote for Liberals yo get $100,000 homes being inflated to $800,000, $85 for a tank of gas, and the inability to keep the lights on despite all those taxes (literally). California deserves their inflation.2d6 likesReply
- sjalvskadad@bruelle28 These facts opress me2dReply
- i.k.e.h.e.n.n.e.s.s.y@qiskarma_ my car can get to $1201dReply
- noah.karatepe@qiskarma_ bro in europe we can pay up to 120 $1dReply
- downlow_performance_inccan’t wait for my cybertruck. I live in canada and drive a 2016 Ford f 150. its $150-$200 to fill depending on our wildly fluctuating gas prices. I live in a province that’s main industry is oil and gas production yet it one of the most expensive places to fuel up. the oil and gas industry is so volatile not sure why people are so reluctant to change over.2d17 likesReply
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- owie.p@downlow_performance_inc if you tow or haul with your it the range drops significantly. Just something to keep in mind.1d3 likesReply
- downlow_performance_inc@owie.p the “range” of my gas truck also goes down significantly when I tow. weird hey??1d1 likeReply
- owie.p@downlow_performance_inc I have nothing against EV’s, I would own the fuck out of a Cybertruck. It’s just heavy towing severely effects range, more than it would on an ICE truck, if you don’t carry close to payload rating it doesn’t matter though.1d1 likeReply
- downlow_performance_inc@owie.p I drive a 2016 F 150 and haul a 20 ft enclosed trailer. without trailer I get about 600 km per tank. with trailer I am lucky to get 250 maybe 300. I dont see your point. get on your bike and ride as far as you can. then hook a trailer up and see if you can ride as far. physics is a motherfucker.1dReply
- owie.p@downlow_performance_inc Assuming a weight of 6500lbs (1000lbs over the model X), the
possibility of a drag coefficient as low as 0.3 mentioned by Elon on
Twitter, a 200kWh battery pack, an a standard enclosed 14,000lb trailer at 60sqft. Travelling 160km at 120kmh on a 1% grade would require 170.5kWh net energy or an 85.25% efficient motor, (model X is 97% efficient). An F-150 at it’s max tow capacity of 13,000lbs with a worse aerodynamic coefficient, and a 136L tank at ~1200kWh of fuel would do the same task needing 170kWh of energy, requiring the motor to be 14% efficiency. Assuming an average of 33% efficiency for this motor you would travel 372.71km on 1% grade, and assuming it’s in perfect operating conditions (not hot or cold out) the Tesla at 97% efficiency would be able to travel 182km. Physics is a motherfucker.1dReply - downlow_performance_inc@owie.p I am talking about real world experience. you are assuming a bunch of shit.1dReply
- owie.p@downlow_performance_inc lmao 🤡1dReply
- chikosjollyspamJust pay $30 and @ a supercharger for 15 mins and you good2d3 likesReply
- 4g63_lil_boostieTurbo car ftw2d1 likeReply
- daniel__bonilla_For me, what I don’t like about electric is charging time, if you have little time and to charge it well you have to wait 75 min, that’s why I prefer gasoline engines.2d3 likesReply
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- joshlemon50@daniel__bonilla_ I mean I have taken a Tesla on several road trips and I have never waited more than 30min for the car to charge. Idk where the 75min timeframe comes from.2d2 likesReply
- daniel__bonilla_@joshlemon50 Well, you have tried it, but 30 minutes in an electric car 5 minutes in a gasoline car, because the difference is still considerable. But hey, it’s a matter of taste.2d1 likeReply
- joshlemon50@daniel__bonilla_ No the timeframe is definitely a challenge. For me it worked out. I would take like 10-15hr trips. So when I stopped the charge, I stopped for food or just to walk around. So the 30 minute wait wasn’t bad. I mean when you’re driving around town/the city, the tesla is better because you can just charge at home. I see both sides to this though.2dReply
- daniel__bonilla_@joshlemon50 Well, seeing it this way is not so bad, the same in the future all or most cars will be electric and there they will implement more charging points which will make everything more normal, so to wait for that to happen to definitely switch to electric cars.2dReply
- joshlemon50@daniel__bonilla_ Yeah definitely. With all of the big brands coming out with electric cars, I see more and more charging stations coming.2d3 likesReply
- gtf431@daniel__bonilla_ that’s true but at some point it’s like setting an alarm to wake up on time, you just gotta plan it out like a grown adult and live with it, but it all depends on how much time and money you have.2dReply
- downlow_performance_inc@daniel__bonilla_ do you wait for your phone to charge? why not charge when you are not using it…… BOOM problem solved.1d1 likeReply
- black.jeffreyfree? most tesla owners have to pay for superchargers2d5 likesReply
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- harry_george.arthur@black.jeffrey Only Model 3 owners do1d2 likesReply
- davidoneil_21Supercharging isn’t free… 😂 yikes2d3 likesReply
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- joshlemon50@davidoneil_21 only for new Model X and Model S purchases for some reason…2d1 likeReply
- wakeupnowgoofWhere does the battery go when its useless?2d2 likesReply
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- joshlemon50@wakeupnowgoof Well considering that some of the first gen Tesla’s have made it to 1million miles on the original battery, nobody really knows.2dReply
- wakeupnowgoof@joshlemon50 Not the original drive line let alone being a tesla from a cold climate.2dReply
- joshlemon50@wakeupnowgoof Which drive line are you referring to?2dReply
- joshlemon50@wakeupnowgoof and some reports show an original model s making it 1mil km in Fasanenhof, Stuttgart, Germany. And I know that their winters can be very cold.2dReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 you avoid giving real answer. They go to scrapyard and need to be recycled as soon as possible.15hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis Don’t know what I avoided? Please enlighten me. Because your comment makes no sense.15hReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 where does battery go when it becomes useless? Does this make sense to you Mr.AllKnow?13hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis Mr.AllKnow? I thought recycling batteries was common knowledge. Didn’t feel the need to explain that.11hReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 Stay with your needles. 😉11hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis Stay in a book. Keep learning, maybe then will you become a bit more educated. And maybe then, will you be able to have a proper discussion and not sound so stupid. 👍🏼11hReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 😂😂being enthusiast does not give you right to think you know everything11hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis So you think creeping on my profile gives you a good understanding of my knowledge? I don’t think I stated in this conversation that since I’m a tech enthusiast, that means I know everything, nor did I state that I know everything. But you said I didn’t give a real answer because I didn’t say that you needed to recycle the batteries in the vehicles which I viewed as common knowledge and could’ve gone without saying.11hReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 keep calm snowflake11hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis Good one. I don’t consider myself a snowflake, but that’s probably the best comment you have made because it’s the only one that made sense.11hReply
- franjoasis@joshlemon50 wOw…grow up some balls and says exactly what is asked for. Not avoiding and shiting here in comments9hReply
- joshlemon50@franjoasis How am I avoiding anything? You haven’t asked anything. You’ve just made dumb comments that make no sense.8hReply
- sebastian_klinkhardt@joshlemon50 ummmm you refer to Mr. Von Gemmingen who did the 1 million miles, but he replaced the electric motor 4 times and the battery one time4hReply
- joshlemon50@sebastian_klinkhardt Ahh I didn’t read that he replaced the battery. Motors are different than batteries.4hReply
- sebastian_klinkhardt@joshlemon50 i know. But its still impressive though. I’m exited what the future of cars will look like (and I’m glad that more manufacturers realize the importance of hydrogen cars too)3hReply
- joshlemon50@sebastian_klinkhardt very true. Idk if this is right, but I have heard that there are issues with hydrogen in terms of price and it’s effectiveness in cold climates. I do know tesla is working on a battery that will last 1 million miles and apparently they’re covered up until then2hReply
- s_a_m_r_j_i_i_tSo you are basically buying time2d2 likesReply
- nicholashernandez4“Free”2d2 likesReply
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- stephanekabayija@nicholashernandez4 for the model x and s9hReply
- fifiken.tiffAnd I have to wait for a long time. Also the price for the energy is included in the price of the car…2dReply
- gxldixmxchtGas.!! Auto brauch Sound und kein Elektro.!2d1 likeReply
- legit_metallicerIf I ain’t making noise I don’t want it. Ain’t nothin like the sound of a mustang2d10 likesReply
- turbocb7Energy source, clean? 🤣🤣🤣👋🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ok, so coal and gas powerplants are clean now?2d10 likesReply
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- harry_george.arthur@turbocb7 they are VERY clean compared to car engines, hence why we dont power the national grid using V8s1dReply
- turbocb7@harry_george.arthur correct, they are cleaner then they have been, but saying that charging cars with coal or gas is clean energy is disingenuous at best1dReply
- owie.p@turbocb7 Cleaner. The amount of carbon emissions in the mining, refinement, transportation and burning of gasoline/diesel far outweighs the emissions produced to charge an EV in an area where coal is used. Energy’s 95% renewable where I live though so it’s pretty well negligible.1dReply
- turbocb7@owie.p still not clean energy, no matter how you try to spin it. As well as the production of the batteries and motors and components of an ev car ate far worse than a simple ice car. But dont take my word for it, I only work on them for a living1dReply
- owie.p@turbocb7 I work on cars for a living too.1dReply
- turbocb7@owie.p then you should know what I said is correct1dReply
- owie.p@turbocb7 the only place ICE motors have left to go is variable compression and compression ignited gas motors. After that we can’t increase efficiency and decrease emissions any further. The production of batteries, recycling process, electric motor tech, and efficiency will only improve in EV’s will only increase and the use of renewable energy sources for charging these cars will only become more abundant. ICE cars obviously give you an enjoyment you can’t get out of an electric motor, but the sound of a turbo motor hitting 8k isn’t gonna go away in our lifetimes. Arguing against EV’s is arguing against progress and does nothing good.1dReply
- turbocb7@owie.p I am not arguing against ev’s. Nowhere have I said that. You typed a whole lotta stuff for no reason. I’m stating the simple truth, unless you are charging directly from nuclear, solar, wind, or hydro you are charging using non clean sources. That is the fact. Ev’s are the future. You ever drive a model s p100d? Mind blowing and they destroy ice powered cars hands down1dReply
- sunrisein2020I’m fine with waiting. It’s the environment that counts. Sure the gas car may only take 4 minutes but what you save in time you destroy in environment. Electric cars are clearly the future and getting a second hand electric car will make more of a difference.2d4 likesReply
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- stephan_millard@sunrisein2020 currently an electric car actually has a higher carbon footprint(with very few exceptions) than a traditional car because of manufacturing the battery is so much more intensive on the environment than the production of a normal car. In the future, it may catch up but don’t buy an electric car right now thinking it will save the environment.16h1 likeReply
- sunrisein2020@stephan_millard But what if the battery is already made? I’m sure electric car battery’s are designed to last a long time.14h1 likeReply
- nokidsnodebtGas for days!!2d3 likesReply
- ata__nimaWould you rather take a 24min trip to your work or a 95min one?2d2 likesReply
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- topazdragon117@ata__nima you’re doing something wrong if you need to charge every day on your way to work.2d6 likesReply
- ata__nima@topazdragon117 I just use my car more than you think, that’s it2dReply
- topazdragon117@ata__nima so if you drive more then the cars battery capacity every day, wow, your saying you wouldn’t want to stop and chill for a few minutes in your day. Look, ive had model S for 4 years. Charging is not that big of an inconvenience as you may think. Most of the time it’s done charging before you’re done whatever you’re doing at your stop.2d3 likesReply
- ata__nima@topazdragon117 I’m convinced2dReply
- harry_george.arthur@ata__nima why tf are you driving over 300 miles to work?1d1 likeReply
- j_mcmillenI never knew batteries were clean energy 🤷♂️ 🤡2d5 likesReply
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- owie.p@j_mcmillen I didn’t know a battery chucked out carbon and NOx every second it’s running. Up to 96% of the materials in a Li-ion battery can be recovered through the recycling process. EV batteries aren’t something that die after 3 years like a phone.1d1 likeReply
- lucas.mdr_Well 4 and 75 min is a huge difference.2d1 likeReply
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- thefittestdoc@lucas.mdr_ Worth it.1dReply
- lucas.mdr_@thefittestdoc Not really.1dReply
- thefittestdoc@lucas.mdr_ False. As I am the only person who has had prolific experience with both gas vehicle AND electric vehicles between us, you don’t know enough to make a substantive decision1dReply
- lucas.mdr_@thefittestdoc How about you come down from your high horse? First of all: You don’t know me. Second: I don’t have the time to charge my car over an hour.1d1 likeReply
- thefittestdoc@lucas.mdr_ Am I wrong? What electric car have you owned/do you own?1dReply
- lucas.mdr_@thefittestdoc My family used to own a BMW i31d1 likeReply
- thefittestdoc@lucas.mdr_ Lolol, say no more; that’s your problem1dReply
- bryangrims@thefittestdoc time is money. Unfortunately you cant buy time and alot of us dont have enough time in a day to finish work. I was thinking of getting a model 3 but charging is ridiculous it takes too long. I just bought a Honda and gas is better than electric, no question.23hReply
- thefittestdoc@bryangrims Believe me when I tell you, you’re overthinking it. Do you sit there in the middle of the day at a charging dock waiting for your phone to charge? No. You unplug it in the morning and it’s fully charged. I have a Tesla Model 3 Performance and that’s how it is…every morning. Fully charged with 310 miles. By the end of the day, my battery is at 83%. And I plug it in (at a time it would be sitting there parked anyway), ready and fully charged the next morning. Anyone who wants to convince you that you’ll spend any amount of time at Superchargers (outside of road trips) is taking you for a fool. You can either buy into it or think logically and realize that, in actuality, nothing saves you more time than this car.23h1 likeReply
- bryangrims@thefittestdoc you’re probably right. Might consider tbh. My brother is planning on buying a Model X so I might support him on his decision23hReply
- bryangrims@thefittestdoc I said “might” but I’m gonna support him23hReply
- thefittestdoc@bryangrims Nice. I just switched from internal combustion to electric 3 months ago. So if you have any questions and want direct insight or answers to your questions, feel free to message me at any time bro23h1 likeReply
- bryangrims@thefittestdoc how long ago did u get ride of your petrol car?23hReply
- thefittestdoc@bryangrims 3 months ago23h1 likeReply
- bryangrims@thefittestdoc looking at Teslas they’re pretty gorgeous cars tbh22hReply
- axel._.pI pay $25 for a full tank who tf pays $652d2 likesReply
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- _c23_j@axel._.p people who don’t fill up with 85 grade gas lol1d2 likesReply
- bryangrims@axel._.p I pay 100$ for a box truck, chief23hReply
- xxaro828xx„Clean“2d1 likeReply
- kote930Your clean electricity comes from burned heavy oil2d6 likesReply
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- andrea_fusc0@kote930 true2d1 likeReply
- _nightmare_in_disguise_@kote930 also true1dReply
- owie.p@kote930 95% hydro electric where I live.1d1 likeReply
- juan_bacarrezakNo gas no car2d1 likeReply
- rx974I don’t get how it’s “Free” so is it a subscription? If yes then how much is it? Don’t give me this “Free” nonsense.2d1 likeReply
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- harry_george.arthur@rx974 if you have a Model X or Model S, Supercharging is free, period1dReply
- sjalvskadadThere is no infrastructure to supply enough electricity2d5 likesReply
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- owie.p@sjalvskadad not everyone is going to instantly own an electric vehicle1d2 likesReply
- structure0silenceSlow as steady baby2dReply
- jacobb.parkerSupercharging isn’t clean, our power is provided by coal powerplants, which is the dirtiest power source out there, gas produces half the pollution coal does…2d8 likesReply
- jonisilva.99Tesla: sounds like a dryer Mustang: sounds like a mosnter2d1 likeReply
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- harry_george.arthur@jonisilva.99 Tesla: Drives straight
Mustang: Commits a genocide1d1 likeReply - thebluewoodturner75mins?? The heck are you charging?
0-90% in 20mins2dReply - bruelle28Ummm, supercharging most definitely is not free. 🤦♂️2dReply
- agustinfernandezbrunelThe Tesla super Charger isn’t free2dReply
- pendley_manGas… I would rather have smiles per gallon … no one ever “I dig that tesla”2d3 likesReply
- alexgiu373Makes noise2dReply
- berlinrichstreetsIt’s not free, here in germany it’s around 30 cents/kWh2d4 likesReply
- ethandw40At some, theres a diesel generator providing power to the chargers.2d1 likeReply
- avesteslaTesla supercharging isn’t free unless you bought a model S or X a few years ago.2d3 likesReply
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- eric.509@avestesla they restarted the free charging plan couple months ago to encourage people buying more expensive Models than the Model 3. The Model 3 performance is so good (0-60 in 3.2 seconds) that it was a too good deal compared to the Model S Long Range (0-60 in 3.7 seconds). So instead of cutting the performance with software or other bullshits they end up restating the free charging for Model S and X to make them more interesting and enable short-term to mid term better benefits, but Elon Say on Twitter it’s not profitable at long term but Tesla will keep it a moment.2d3 likesReply
- humbl3_h00p3r$100 for a full tank on trucks2d3 likesReply
- souljpengyPrice different for car ?2dReply
- armin.elsTesla isnt necessarily clean. Their power comes from traditional coal/geothermal power stations. Teslas have just about the same carbon footprint as any other car2d6 likesReply
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- tehjimos@armin.els that’s a lie :)2d1 likeReply
- qaxi_qamar@tehjimos how?2dReply
- tehjimos@qaxi_qamar https://www.transportenvironment.org/sites/te/files/publications/TE%20-%20draft%20report%20v04.pdf (den2d1 likeReply
- qaxi_qamar@tehjimos what it is?2dReply
- tehjimos@qaxi_qamar even with coal energy the electric car is less polluting over the cars lifetime.2d1 likeReply
- enism6@armin.els absolute nonsense – even coal energy is far cleaner than individual gas/diesel car engines. Any commercial power plant will be far more efficient in energy production than an individual car engine could ever hope to be.2dReply
- armin.els@enism6 @tehjimos its not just the coal power. The whole process of constructing new Tesla factories, cars and related assets, the acquiring and disposing of lithium battery cells and materials needed for the abovementioned, the generation of electricity and the disposal of old, used cars people get rid of for a brand new Tesla have a 3x higher footprint per Tesla than just using your current 2009 Corolla (any other car). And are you smoking? Coal energy is 4.3x more pollutant than the average car.2d2 likesReply
- tehjimos@armin.els … it’s not like your destroying the used car. Someone else uses it. You can’t understand life cycles apparently… doesn’t matter if a Tesla produces more to make… in the life cycle it has a lower carbon footprint. The toyota also had to make factories, dispose of materials with a lot less cleaner energy grid. Tesla uses renewable energy for it’s factories. Instead of being cocky, try a schoolbook or simple logical thinking.2dReply
- armin.els@tehjimos I think you l meant to say “factual” instead of cocky2dReply
- tehjimos@armin.els saying “are you smoking?” is being cocky. Go read on what a lifetimecycle is and then apply that to your calculations :)2dReply
- enism6@armin.els I think a lot of people get stuck in a mentality that if the solution to a problem is not 100% perfect then we shouldn’t move fwd at all. Current gas engines didn’t get to where they are overnight, it’s taken over 100 yrs of development to get them to be the relatively efficient and reliable engines that they are today. What you seem to be saying is that because Tesla’s cars aren’t 100% clean we should just keep things the way they are. Tesla is a step in the right direction and it’s actually a huge step in the right direction. It’s also not Tesla’s fault that our government is subsidizing the dying coal industry to artificially keep it alive (so republicans can win votes in coal country) instead of pushing fwd with an aggressive switch to clean energy. And yes producing products does and always will create some pollutants and have an impact on the planet. But as @tehjimos was pointing out the lifecycle of an EV is far longer than that of a gas car meaning less cars will have to be built.16h1 likeReply
- _keltenMore than 75 min if there’s a long line. Supercharger by my house will sometimes have a line of 10 Tesla’s2dReply
- sebby654In California supercharging runs near a rate of .32 per KW. An average charge session can be $8-$15.2d1 likeReply
- ss_zeebruhExcept for the simple fact that almost every state that’s not California, gas is barely $2 a gallon, charging your Tesla isn’t actually free, the Tesla cost literally 2 times the price so the money that you “save at the pump” you simply pay in your monthly payment, and coal powers the Tesla super chargers 🤣 I like the cars tho 💀2d1 likeReply
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- downlow_performance_inc@ss_zeebruh coal powers the superchargers?? all of em? REALLY??2dReply
- bielfun@ss_zeebruh 150 years worth of coal left in the planet with current production rate, plus coal is a plant based fossil fuel, meanwhile 52 years left of oil reserves with current production rate. On top of the fact that most households with tesla are free of ground power and can recharge from their solar roof. You wanna sound smart talking about shit you know nothing about?2dReply
- dillonkaye______@bielfun uh oh some ones getting mad at gas cars😂2dReply
- spitfire46I’d still choose an engine over a battery2d5 likesReply
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- fitlifewithchris82@spitfire46 🤣2d2 likesReply
- __deven30__@spitfire46 Hope you have fun driving a vehicle destroying the planet2d1 likeReply
- spitfire46@__deven30__ oh yeah !!!! Don’t worry about what might happen tomorrow live for today, enjoy life, By the time the world is screwed up, I will be dead a long time so not my problem, 😀😀😀😀😀2d4 likesReply
- d.anihl.o.15@spitfire46 so you Want to tell me that Tesla doesn’t have an engine or wtf are you Talking about2d1 likeReply
- spitfire46@d.anihl.o.15 lol 😀 I will always choose the petrol or diesel over a stupid electric car,2d1 likeReply
- enism6@spitfire46 you must’ve adopted that attitude from your dad 🙄2d1 likeReply
- chikosjollyspam@enism6 lmao don’t argue with him. Mans can’t afford a Tesla nor a car 😂 his opinion is irrelevant2d1 likeReply
- pendley_man@__deven30__ lol u so worried about climate change… God is in control let him worry about that. I’ll take a diesel or gas or electric any day… never heard of an electric car trying to start in -20 degree weather.. have you?2d1 likeReply
- pendley_man@pendley_man over electric not or electric lol2d1 likeReply
- jack.hollingshead@chikosjollyspam I wanna throw a couple dollars in that you can’t afford one either🧐1d1 likeReply
- chikosjollyspam@jack.hollingshead congratulations you played yourself1dReply
- lexou1w23Good smell, good sound, nice cars2dReply
- dvlprrAround the city (of course it depends), in my city and my daily commute, 370 miles would more than enough for a week (5 days) So I wouldn’t mind supercharging for 40 mins while watching YouTube or playing BBR.2dReply
- courtneymowattmitchellParticularly if you’re in an area (as the picture of the gas ⛽️ hose seems to indicate) where vapor recovery systems aren’t required at gas stations. Yuck! Love your posts‼️2d1 likeReply
- pablocunninghamAgreed! But 75 mins?!😅😅😅2dReply
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- _gonzob@pablocunningham 15 wh supercharger2dReply
- dvlprr@pablocunningham <75 mins2dReply
- vinesh_r7Tesla:: shit and boring2dReply
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- freesurgeI’m in CA have a gas car, a diesel truck and a Model 3. $65, $65, $15 in that order is what they cost me. 8min, 8min, 12-25 min at supercharger for each. Love all my cars.2dReply
- nathanburgess_702It’s free ??2dReply
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- jasonbishopshow@nathanburgess_702 no, I’m not sure why they said that. Some people with a Grandfathered plan get free charging but it’s not offered anymore that I know of.2d1 likeReply
- cruisingattitude@nathanburgess_702 It’s now free again for purchasers of the Model S & Model X.2d1 likeReply
- aalibahadirBecause racecar2d1 likeReply
- mcintyre8177Where does the energy come from?2d2 likesReply
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- shaughnessy_rory@mcintyre8177 hamsters running on little wheels underneath the charge stations2d9 likesReply
- haydenxmorris“Clean” 80% of green house gasses comes from coal power plants2d9 likesReply
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- harry_george.arthur@haydenxmorris if engines are more efficient than power plants, why are we powering the Grid with V8s?1dReply
- haydenxmorris@harry_george.arthur if governments were serious about clean energy they’d invest way more to nuclear power23hReply
- harry_george.arthur@haydenxmorris Fukushima kinda put a hold on that for a while23hReply
- haydenxmorris@harry_george.arthur natural disasters in different countries don’t really stop progress23hReply
- harry_george.arthur@haydenxmorris but they do create distrust and fear, regardless of what happens, like how 9/11 caused countries around the globe to increase security in airports23hReply
- venus__ekGas for me is 10$2dReply
- retro___33Time is money. They get that charge time down under 5 min and they can have my money.2d3 likesReply
- raresslivcaUnfortunately the electricity from the Tesla Supercharger Network is not 100% clean, much of it is still produced by burning coal or gas or its nuclear ! There is a long way to go untill all the electricity is “clean” !2d2 likesReply
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- camron_angell@raresslivca nuclear is a very clean energy source2d1 likeReply
- raresslivca@camron_angell not when you have to keep the nuclear rods in cold water pools for about 50.000 years untill they are radiation free !2d1 likeReply
- camron_angell@raresslivca yes the nuclear rods are radioactive but the actual energy production and source is very clean, nuclear energy is the best source of energy to combat climate change and is much cleaner than coal and gas2dReply
- kafkhab_mashinha💩💩💩💩💩💩💩tesla2dReply
- qaxi_qamarOh so where do electricity comes from? It comes from more dirty resource,Coal.2d2 likesReply
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- navinmukraj@qaxi_qamar long tailpipe FUD debunked https://www.fleetcarma.com/long-tailpipe-argument-debunked/2dReply
- dnyeallTesla2dReply
- qaxi_qamarI think instead of coal or fuels we could place some heavy solar panels at deserts to get Electric Supply2d1 likeReply
- mucdabadwait, you dont pay to charge teslas?2dReply
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- turbocb7@mucdabad you pay a subscription to use their chargers… generic chargers available at a lot of car dealers are free2dReply
- avestesla@turbocb7 you don’t pay a subscription, you pay per kWh used while supercharging. It’s free for model S/X’s depending on the year (including new ones)2dReply
- martin_drgaGas!!!2d3 likesReply
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- martin_drga@martin_drga energy source člena ?!? 😂😂2dReply
- monty_vitkarWhat fre chutiye2dReply
- thederv96I will stand at a pump thanks !2dReply
- misterdavid6.2If i didnt work outside of town i would totally go electric. Maybe my next car tho.2dReply
- jonas.oliver.abelWhere do you think the electricity comes from2d2 likesReply
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- harry_george.arthur@jonas.oliver.abel Elon Described how to solve China’s power needs with solar farms, do you really think he hasn’t got an answer to your question?1dReply
- timworldfixSo why its cost money to recharge a tesla in Sweden?2d1 likeReply
- rolliestonerThey charge to use the Tesla chargers, why you advertising false info???2d1 likeReply
- rolliestonerThey charge to use the Tesla chargers, why you advertising false info???2dReply
- rolliestonerThey charge to use the Tesla chargers, why you advertising false info???2dReply
- rolliestonerThey charge to use the Tesla chargers, why you advertising false info???2d1 likeReply
- kike_mompeUna pregunta ya que te crees tan listo, que haréis con las baterías desgastadas, ya que eso también contamina, el futuro son los coches de hidrógeno deja de publicar mierda y haz algo decente2dReply
- tyronefromallstateImagine waiting 75 min for your car to charge2d2 likesReply
- giri_nrajTime is important for me .2dReply
- tone.blanco925Lol Tesla can’t even make it from The Bay Area to LA in 5 hours.2d1 likeReply
- miche_fernandezElectric.. free? 😂😂😂😂😂2d4 likesReply
- tosh.rooBut where does the electricity come from, unless it says so it probably came from a power plant that uses coal… these cars would benefit from having a home solar system with a large battery storage2dReply
- mypapers.com.arSecond batt for instant replacement, next2d1 likeReply
- mlgcorrosiveBuy 1500$ car, pay 30$ every 2 weeks for a full tank of gas I drive a Subaru gas lasts me 2 weeks with a hour commute each way to work.
Compared to 40k for a Tesla? Yikes I’m good
I like gas engines fuck that electric shit it’s gay anyway1d1 likeReply - _hemang.ig_Supercharger 🔥🔥1dReply
- _karlabilo65 to full? Damn that’s hella cheap where that at tho?1dReply
- _tythegreatesMach e1dReply
- djcegeEnergy source “clean”? As if you even know where the energy is sourced from1d1 likeReply
- robertfergusEnergy source clean! How? Wind turbines and solar panels are made using materials many of which are strip mined in Africa and Asia using old dirty diesel machines and cause huge environmental damage locally. Also how long do you think it will remain free? They have just introduced charges here in Ireland and they are going to go one way👆.1d1 likeReply
- revokexdits not really a cleaner energy tho1d1 likeReply
- ahmer_timeit’s not free1d1 likeReply
- bensimonopolyPay with TIME or MONEY?1dReply
- 01sansloid pay gas any day but maybe in the future i will have one old classic car and one tesla🤔1dReply
- ziad_mashat_Damn gas be so expensive in the US1dReply
- europeanoutlawLmfao you smokin some heavy meth if you think you can charge your Tesla for free1dReply
- electrifiedtimesElectric all the way 🔋1dReply
- jack.hollingsheadWould you rather your car be incredibly fucking boring and have absolutely no modability, be piss poorly engineered to the point where if something goes wrong on it it’ll take a mechanic way more time to find it? Or would you rather take the gas guzzling, environmentally unfriendly, loud and modable, power machine that can be worked on and engineered with the mind of ease of access to fix? I’m gonna stick with something that is more fun, you can enjoy your boring electric cars!1d2 likesReply
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- scoggin_tristan69It really ain’t free1d1 likeReply
- _nightmare_in_disguise_Oke so here’s the problem! To produce that electricity for that battery you pollute the environment more than an exhaust from and normal car!1dReply
- giancarlo_iggUsing a supercharger is not free. You pay per kwh (0,30 cents) but is not free. PD: if you have one at home and produce your own energy, then it’s “free”.1dReply
- ben_yeisleyGas1dReply
- demo8snheartbreaksSo If you really care ride a bike and use public transpo.1dReply
- jeffrey_daniels_I’d rather pay 61d1 likeReply
- jeffrey_daniels_I’d rather pay $650 for a tank then be seen in a tesla1d1 likeReply
- wlc_ebTime is money so no1d1 likeReply
- afonsomiguelvelosoClean, and lítio of the battery 🔋1dReply
- kfc_cruncy_chicken_yammyNope charging your car is not free1dReply
- matt_mangano_Gas car a thousand times over time is more valuable than money23hReply
- game_wiz1Ok the sad part is that Tesla’s are worse for the environment, have way less mileage then average cars and are bad in loral areas. Also the gas is 4mins not even when Tesla is wasting more then a hour of my time which is crazy important in my industry especially in the city as well.23hReply
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- game_wiz1@game_wiz1 also even their truck can’t tow crap, or even make it have any value.23hReply
- justin_hermouf_official@game_wiz1 that’s not always true.. it’s depends where the source comes from.. where I’m from they are the best for the envionment because the electricity comes from windmills and not industrially made22hReply
- game_wiz1@justin_hermouf_official I’m talking about the electric power I’m talking about the batteries. If electric cars become the norm the plastic island in the pacific will be tiny to the lithium ion battery stock pile that we aren’t able to get rid of. One battery when produced makes as big as a carbon foot print as a V8 5 years life cycle. Also those batteries only last 4-6 years and after that they are blocks of acid we made that is like plastic and doesn’t have places to go.22hReply
- justin_hermouf_official@game_wiz1 there’s a new technology called glass batteries which will be able to handle the mileage, be more eco friendly, and put out more tq and hp.. idk much about this topic but I think electric cars are scary because of the full range of torque at any rpm and cuz they can easily have loads of torque.. it will be interesting how people will “modify” them and how they will make them go faster or if it will just be more money more power22hReply
- game_wiz1@justin_hermouf_official the problem with glass batteries are their duration and power output22hReply
- justin_hermouf_official@game_wiz1 they are still getting developed so then that won’t be the problem21hReply
- game_wiz1@justin_hermouf_official sadly we can’t get rid of the lithium ion processing and how it works. Even if we did go smaller with more energy it would still make a bigger foot print personally global warming is a joke to me but almost all Tesla owners buy them for the environmentally friendly side so just pointing out how they dare greatly flawed21h1 likeReply
- mulottaThe source of Tesla’s energy isn’t clean. If you buy it in US most certainly it’ll be dirt once the majority of electricity of US comes from fossil fuels or burning something…23hReply
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- mulotta@mulotta Not mentioning the HUGE pollution made to manufacture the batteries. So yes, I take the gas. Not only the gas but Ethanol that are made from plants 😌23hReply
- khaledmasripdp30min not 75min22hReply
- zoezaikossupercharging isnt free, only a handful of teslas first customers got free charging with their cars22hReply
- deekan_whalanWish it cost $65 aha, try like 90+ with good prices20hReply
- kote930No oil field in the world produced more than 20% of its reserves because our technology can’t get reservoirs pressurized beyond this point to keep crude flow. Once we reach production plateau reservoirs go into managed production decline and then just conserved. Once tech improves we come back and behold- reservoir “recovered” or in sinple terms- more oil appeared in it. Oil and Gas are infinitely renewable sources.18hReply
- terrychenowithTesla recharging is NOT free. To travel 1,000 miles it costs roughly 2,500 cubic feet of natural gas, or 286 lbs of coal which is what most of the world uses for electricity. So that’s roughly 822 lbs of carbon dioxide of coal burnt to refuel that electric car per 1,000 miles. A comparable car say the BMW 4 door 3 series (not this 2 door sports car that you are trying to use) with a gas engine would be about 507 pounds of Co2 created per 1,000 miles. Let’s factor in the 75 minutes it takes to recharge. The average Tesla owner annual income is $143,177 US dollars per year. That means sitting there for 75 minutes just cost that person $103.60 of income. As apposed to the gas driver costing .21 cents for 5 minutes. Let’s call it 10 mins. .42 cents. That’s a net loss to the Tesla of $103.18 factor in the cost of even $80 to refuel that BMW Tesla is still costing you $23.18 per recharge to tank of fuel. Nope Tesla is NOT FREE!16hReply
- umu.pngIs the electricity generated in a clean way though?15hReply
- j.quintanasIm a tesla fanboy, but clean source? In France, 90 per cent of energy come from nuclear energy✌️13hReply
- 0lionel_aaron0It actually depend on the person but i would rather get paid $65 to chill in tesla 🤣13hReply
- ozi020$65 ? Netherlands around €140 😢9hReply
- taykhan.chNot all energy source are actually clean6hReply
- jules.vgtBatteries toxic…6hReply
- boertleinIt’s not free4hReply
- easton.the_redheadIt cost me 17$ to fill up my ford, so I’m taking happy Ass to my car3hReply
- solo713_Max 30 min to charge a tesla2hReply
- shashi.patel321What about mach e 😍1d1 likeReply
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- voltly.co@shashi.patel321 Check out 4 posts back.1d1 likeReply
- mcvaaahhhKinda misleading
Superchargers are not free for all, only some
Most electric sources in the US are still “dirty”, although “clean” are gaining!2d19 likesReply - Hide replies
- harley_mccoy@mcvaaahhh even not free for all but is still cheaper for all2d2 likesReply
- mcvaaahhh@harley_mccoy absolutely! It’s a still a better choice2d5 likesReply
- voltly.co@mcvaaahhh for me it’s technically free or should I say was baked into my Model X price.2d4 likesReply
- mcvaaahhh@voltly.co yeah, mines free too. Just saying the comparison is misleading because its only sometimes true.2d1 likeReply
- naturalkidd808@mcvaaahhh precisely on the mark my guy.2dReply
- naturalkidd808@mcvaaahhh even when it’s free it’s not really free. The money to do that had to come from somewhere so some someone is prolly getting suckered for your free charges.2dReply
- mcvaaahhh@naturalkidd808 I’m sure Tesla bakes it into the sales price of their cars figuring on avg utilization. I charge at home and it two years have probably only hit an SC 10-15 times.1dReply
- jeff_a_davisSC is not free for everyone.2d4 likesReply
- c_mon00Gas😊1d1 likeReply
- alexirud4 minutes vs 75 mins. Sorry, when batteries on Tesla charge in like 15 at least, get back to us.1d1 likeReply
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- clean_cars_only4 Different Levels Of Charging
All Different Times @volty.co
72 KW
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250 KW1dReply - j_levertoon@alexirud I leave my garage with a full battery, so no recharging needed. Get back at me with your gas soaked shoes and 4 minutes and 50$ you put into oil and gas pockets.1d2 likesReply
- dean.fisher.paintingsI charge my electric cars from the solar panels on my home. It’s about as “clean” as automobile driving can be right now.1d1 likeReply
- da_shzAll day1dReply
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- da_shz@da_shz Tesla life baby1dReply
- skeulletThe v8 sound all the way👌🏾1d1 likeReply
- ccschenkDepends how much you are paid an hr.1dReply
- luke__schenkelA hellcat has a supercharger1d4 likesReply
- naturalkidd808Elon is a master marketer👌2dReply
- real_tonyrBut supercharging kills your battery faster so it’s a toss up.2dReply
- imrlysmolIsn’t the tesla and having the charger port exponentially more expensive than buying a used mustang(?) Most people can afford to save up for a $10-15k car but it’s a whole other thing to save like 40k plus whatever the installing price is for the charger and that’s if you have a house. Most apartment buildings don’t have electric car charge ports.2d1 likeReply
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- j_levertoon@imrlysmol I use a 240 in my garage, about 25 bucks to put in. 7-10$ to “fill an empty tank”1dReply
- piotrek_61Gasoline1dReply
- real.jay_donavanDepends on the day really do I want to have fun and be loud or do i want to drive off a cliff silently so nobody hears me die🤔23hReply
- worm.with.a.permBut but car go brap brap11hReply
- isaac_dh_All those lithium ion batteries are mined and made in China. And China burns more coal than the rest of the world combined. Very dirty process to produce batteries.6hReply
- the_maxymaxWell not all of us can afford 40,000 dollars for a car5hReply
- glennshannIll stick to diesel thanks1dReply
- k.3yTime is money13hReply
- elvine214If it’s clean, the deforestation and the exploitation of African kids for the get lithuim is clean for you… Meh… 🤔18hReply
- batman_of_perthBuy clean you mean coal powered power stations🔥15hReply
- gil_the_car_boiLithium mines destroy ecosystems worse than fossil fuels, hydrogen is the way to go.23h1 likeReply
- franjdm88You all know that lithium mining is way more destructive geologically than drilling for oil? Lithium mining levels hundreds and thousands of acres of land dug out leaving a bigger scar on the earth.19hReply
- __delbuxx__Electric cars aren’t cars, they’re shit4hReply
- moosa1819Our future belongs to it. We must evolve otherwise would be perished as any other species. We should do more to teach younger generations about how to tackle these problems in the future. Elon is doing a great job. 🤗🤗2d2 likesReply
- sambam72What I’d really like is for the rich Tesla owners to leave the chargers for the people who actually need them2dReply
- winnipeg_car_lifeNot all electricity sources are clean. There are still plenty of coal-powered electric plants. And nuclear, while free of immediate atmospheric pollutants, runs a huge risk to life in the event of a failure. (See Chernobyl for details)2d1 likeReply
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- sweet_n_sour_nut_v2@winnipeg_car_life fossil fuel powered electricity plants are certainly not clean but theyre actually better than fossil fuel vehicles because the average car engine has a furl burning efficiency of around 30% while most power plants are closer to 60+%. Electric cars powered by fuel burning plants are still less polluting than fuel burning cars2d2 likesReply
- crazyfruitbat@sweet_n_sour_nut_v2 that depends. In Japan after the Fukushima disaster they moved to mostly coal driven electricity. As Japan doesn’t have coal they import it from across the globe, so there is a massive carbon footprint before it even hits the oven1d1 likeReply
- sweet_n_sour_nut_v2@crazyfruitbat that is true, and i agree in that situation coal is definitely not a good option. I was just saying that a lot of times fossil fuel power plants, which are gross and should be phased out asap, arent as inefficient as the cars. Usually1dReply
- nextadventuresmvcSo teuw!!!!2dReply
- mookjinc77@chocolatecity29 🔥🔥2dReply
- cohascoWell we have a #Smart #EQ so we don’t exactly #chill shen except when the top is down. Since we take three hours from “0” we chill at the nearest #Brewery or #Winery many do offer free charging. #Priceless On our second one so sad to see them leave the USA.2dReply
- frocomusicfree?2dReply
- erikfountaineLmao2dReply
- ruro_designIs a clean energy? We are sure?2d3 likesReply
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- muehe.1887@ruro_design nuclear power is very clean 👌2d1 likeReply
- ruro_design@muehe.1887 coal-fired power plants are clean2d1 likeReply
- harley_mccoy@ruro_design coal fired plants even using most modern tech using low-sulfur coal and the single most significant source of acid rain2d2 likesReply
- goncharov_85I think Tesla will buy about 10% of buyers in 2020 in the USA and 3-4% in the rest of the world.2d1 likeReply
- cribbssamWhile the cars themselves make no emissions, the factories that make the batteries and energy sources are not super clean.2d6 likesReply
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- lukas.crsr@cribbssam yeah. But driving an electric car for 10 years is cleaner than a gas car1dReply
- cribbssam@lukas.crsr true1dReply
- franjdm88@cribbssam True, and people over look or don’t even know the geological destruction mining for lithium does. Drilling for oil is way less obtrusive.19hReply
- cribbssam@franjdm88 it is a trade off11hReply
- mariusmtb73“clean” = nuclear and coal powerplants BTW + producing a full EV is way more polluting than producing a petrol vehicle, even more on the long term2d1 likeReply
- luke_wildaOy it’s not free2dReply
- _shabir_amiri_0Elon musk2dReply
- _shabir_amiri_0🔥🔥🔥2dReply
- kray_figmentTesla cars are manufactured using coal/petroleum energy2d3 likesReply
- tulsacokerPaying 100k for a vehicle with no cost supercharging. You just paid it up front , and most charging is done at home for a cost. Love Tesla still2dReply
- lawson_p_lasloElectricity ain’t free😂2dReply
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- j_levertoon@lawson_p_laslo nope, but super cheap 🤣1dReply
- e_taxi.businessIt’s stupid to say that electricity is always “clean” 😴 sorry2d2 likesReply
- quickster01Ha “clean” even though most electricity is made with fossil fuels AND batteries are a huuuge pollutant2d3 likesReply
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- orionastronaut@quickster01 1/3rd of cars though1dReply
- inhabited.cosmosOne thing to note is that the charge time to 80% is vastly lower than to full charge. With cars being able to charge from 0 to 80% in 15mins(soon to be less), it really changes things. The average person will only need to charge their car once or twice a week. With cars regularly sitting on driveways for 6hrs+ over night, there are many ways to get it done.2d4 likesReply
- trevryanadventuresBeen in a Tesla X and its impressive power. But there is nothing like the power and sound of a big fat dirty V8 #v82dReply
- reece_visnawWho spends $65 on gas I spend about $35 a month4hReply
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